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作者 如果是你们，会选择哪个？
FinalDeath





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于 2008-05-30 15:45 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. ie only, sorry for netscape users:-)add this post to my favorite list
工作快2年了，父母让我回去，回去后托关系找个国企工作（天津），工资在1.5k左右,好处是每天的工作就是喝茶看报纸，中午吃饭有食堂，7、8块足以，每个月200块钱的饭补，正点上下班，不需要租房子（住家里），房子便宜，80平米才40~50W。而我现在在北京的工作是税后5.5k左右，需要自己买饭，自己租房子，以后还不知道能否在北京买房子。而且工作由于是外企，上了班就是疯狂的工作，有时候加班到9点才下班。我们高中同学90％都是靠父母找的工作，现在都有方有车了（尽管是父母给买的）鄙人今年快25了，什么都没有，就是一个小本科生，何去何从啊……


作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:FinalDeath]
JiafanZhou



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于 2008-05-30 16:09 user profilesend a private message to usersend email to JiafanZhousearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. ie only, sorry for netscape users:-)add this post to my favorite list
> 我们高中同学90％都是靠父母找的工作，现在都有方有车了（尽管是父母给买的）
你应该觉得自豪才对，自己靠双手工作，比那些父母给的要珍贵的多。你也会觉得工作的很有意义。

>鄙人今年快25了，什么都没有，就是一个小本科生，何去何从啊……
25岁还算年轻把，多学点东西还是好的。每天喝茶看报纸，没有过一个月估计你就要废了。问问你自己的目标是什么？

个人意见
嘉帆

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then I realized that The Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked him to forgive me.
作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:FinalDeath]
wes109

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于 2008-05-30 18:53 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. ie only, sorry for netscape users:-)add this post to my favorite list
我记得一句话：英雄？怎么不问问做英雄的代价？

我觉得，人生的乐趣不在于成为英雄，也不是什么意义不意义，太虚！

做自己喜欢的事，并从中找到乐趣，是最重要的，也就是成为“乐之者”

大部分人都会让你坚持，他们有很多很多理由。。。

我觉得你还是应该问问自己，你喜欢什么样的生活？有什么样的目标？

回去不一定就是费了，不需要为生活的压力操心，利用喝茶看报纸的时间发展一下自己的爱好也是何乐而不为呀？

北京，外企，5.5k是很少的。工作没有乐趣，又没有物质来妳补，长期下去生活是一种折磨。

当然，如果你有更高更远的目标，近期的困境，又算得了什么？


作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:FinalDeath]
FinalDeath





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于 2008-05-30 20:24 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. ie only, sorry for netscape users:-)add this post to my favorite list
说真的，我不清楚，回去，估计我不会甘心，我受不了整天无所事事尔虞我诈的生活。在这里，我也不清楚，国内的IT企业都是靠加班来完成任务的，低成本式作坊，未来，我真的不知道……


作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:FinalDeath]
FinalDeath





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于 2008-05-30 20:30 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. ie only, sorry for netscape users:-)add this post to my favorite list
我一直喜欢技术，每天都在学习，我原来想进个大型外企，然后每天能够有些自己的时间，大部分时候有个周末，可以研究技术。现在想想这个想法多么不切实际，我没有学历，而且年龄大了，需要考虑房子，要结婚，这些东西渐渐的会离我远去的……

我喜欢的生活？喜欢的生活就是无忧无虑的研究技术，然后在该休息的时候能够和朋友一起喝酒聊天，有个可以不漂亮但是真正爱我的老婆……


作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:FinalDeath]
gaoxt1983





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于 2008-05-30 20:37 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. ie only, sorry for netscape users:-)add this post to my favorite list
老乡你好，我的情况和你差不多，工资税后7k左右，回家2k，还能让父母买个房子，尽管在北京也能买，但是价钱能便宜30W，然后现在还在工作，有时候也迷茫……


作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:FinalDeath]
JiafanZhou



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毕竟能把兴趣和上班结合起来的工作不多，软件开发算是一种吧。

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then I realized that The Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked him to forgive me.
作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:HenryShanley]
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于 2008-06-02 11:17 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. ie only, sorry for netscape users:-)add this post to my favorite list
谁也不能替你作决定，，


作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:FinalDeath]
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这个问题比较有中国特色，HenryShanley的建议没有参考价值，他不在国内工作。

鹰行折翼 再盼凌云
作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:andy_wang_5]
JiafanZhou



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于 2008-06-03 16:31 user profilesend a private message to usersend email to JiafanZhousearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. ie only, sorry for netscape users:-)add this post to my favorite list
andy_wang_5 wrote:
这个问题比较有中国特色，HenryShanley的建议没有参考价值，他不在国内工作。

Well, I understand why people think my suggestions are helpless because I am not in the same working environment as "FinalDeath". But I was trying to convince a developer not to leave his job as a software engineer for the God sake. Because we all love "JAVA".

It is a lot easier to give up what you are doing and what you loved so far and do something completely meaningless and useless. I understand this is your decision and I only dole out my opinions so think them seriously.

Thanks,
Jiafan

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then I realized that The Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked him to forgive me.
作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:FinalDeath]
gaoxt1983





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于 2008-06-04 09:05 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. ie only, sorry for netscape users:-)add this post to my favorite list
哈哈，我不喜欢java，我用了ruby一年多，虽然也不喜欢ruby，但是要我回java，除非是非web开发，我认为，web开发动态语言才是王道


作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:FinalDeath]
floater

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If I were you, I would go back. I am not that old, but let me mention a story of mine. In 1995, I got a job offer go back to beijing, for 120K USD. I thought just the way you have today. Now I am stuck in the middle of nowhere.

Well, maybe this is always the case: folks going one way always tell you the other way is better, Smile.

"Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand."
- Martin Fowler, Refactoring - Improving the Design of Existing Code
作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:FinalDeath]
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andy_wang_5 edited on 2008-06-05 08:44
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作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:FinalDeath]
Jcat

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于 2008-06-06 08:43 user profilesend a private message to usersend email to Jcatsearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. ie only, sorry for netscape users:-)add this post to my favorite list
我在成都有三套房（当然是父母的）（当然在这次地震中都没塌），我在北京500元租一间屋子。

你可以回去，但必须是荣归故里；绝对不能以现在的理由、状态回去。（我又激动了）

父母的钱可以花，但不能让他们白花。你都给花完了，你又不能挣，总得给你儿子留点什么吧。

好好活，做有意义的事。

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作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:FinalDeath]
Biubiu

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为啥FinalDeath和gaoxt1983是同一个IP发的帖子呢？连代理的IP都一样...

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; in practice, however, there is.

If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.
作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:FinalDeath]
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完了……


作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:FinalDeath]
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不要回家.


躲得过的怪物，躲不过的刺激

作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:Biubiu]
jigsaw

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Biubiu wrote:
为啥FinalDeath和gaoxt1983是同一个IP发的帖子呢？连代理的IP都一样...


总斑竹暴露他人隐私。。。

No one knows except both of us.
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作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:FinalDeath]
Jcat

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Biubiu

我姐姐家养了只苏格兰折耳猫，就叫 Biu Biu

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作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:floater]
jigsaw

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floater wrote:
If I were you, I would go back. I am not that old, but let me mention a story of mine. In 1995, I got a job offer go back to beijing, for 120K USD. I thought just the way you have today. Now I am stuck in the middle of nowhere.

Well, maybe this is always the case: folks going one way always tell you the other way is better, Smile.


Shock 95年的12万美金？太猛了。。。

No one knows except both of us.
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作者 Re:如果是你们，会选择哪个？ [Re:jigsaw]
floater

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jigsaw wrote:
Shock 95年的12万美金？太猛了。。。

yea, if I went back then, I might make a far east region president, huh, Smile. Damn, I missed it.

"Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand."
- Martin Fowler, Refactoring - Improving the Design of Existing Code

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