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作者 完了 被丢到垃圾项目了
jigsaw

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哥哥们 五年 要维护五年 完了 我操
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作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:jigsaw]
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于 2007-04-03 12:13 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. ie only, sorry for netscape users:-)add this post to my favorite list
好红……

我擦了3个月屁股，我照样活得好好的吗？3个月后都麻木了，呵呵……


作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:jigsaw]
wes109

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金灿灿的红饭碗呀。。。。。保质期5年。。。。


作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:wes109]
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要是我也能够连续五年都不用担心失业就好了.


作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:jigsaw]
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If you don't like your job assignment, you can try to find a new job....

My guess is they paid you pretty good...

If you want to keep your job, you'd be better shut down your dirty words...

Thanks!



作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:jigsaw]
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于 2007-04-03 13:39 user profilesend a private message to usersend email to cxp108search all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. ie only, sorry for netscape users:-)add this post to my favorite list
是前景很不好，还是程序有问题？


作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:jigsaw]
gaoxt1983





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于 2007-04-03 14:10 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. ie only, sorry for netscape users:-)add this post to my favorite list
lz应该是北方人吧，我现实中也爱这么说话……


作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:jigsaw]
jigsaw

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那位大姐 不用谢啦
这也算脏话？那就算吧 不过我可不打算留着。
你说我工资高 因此我要么走人要么闭嘴 我只能说你站着说话不腰疼
要不我们比比谁工资低？
你倒是成功叛逃了 享受着米帝国主义的天空 回过头来还说俺们留守的别不自量力 该知足常乐 有你这么不厚道的吗？

维护一个垃圾５年 意味着这５年内随时被电话喊去加班 每天要跟客户扯皮

现在只是一个客户要上线 就折腾了１年多 愣是没go live起来
往后N个客户要上线 每个客户都是５年合同 哥哥们 到时候我不辞职就得死

之前的内部考核时 我故意留了一手 不料压根不管用 老板说你行你就得行
给我换了个title 叫chief architect
付出的代价是对所有问题负责：负责解决方案，负责coaching, 负责所有修改的细节的正确性，负责跟进所有客户的case, 同时身体力行，负责超过一半的编码, 没有任何权力指使谁做什么---但是得对所有人的成果负责
得到的除了这个虚名，就只有5%的加薪

5年 至少５年的有期徒刑

我现在最希望老板改主意 第二希望这个产品迅速fail 早死早超生

>> 是前景很不好，还是程序有问题？
都！

jigsaw edited on 2007-04-03 17:23
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作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:jigsaw]
gaoxt1983





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于 2007-04-03 19:49 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. ie only, sorry for netscape users:-)add this post to my favorite list
恩，我们换个话题吧，大家吃了吗？对了，javaeye周六有个聚会，你们谁想去？我想去，可是害怕，都是大人物啊，怕懂得太少被BS……


作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:jigsaw]
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很同情 ！呵呵，有这么多权力，有那么多信任，为什么不好好的研究、修理一下？

"First they ignore u, then they laugh at u, then they fight u, then u will win

Mahatma Gandhi"

作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:jigsaw]
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于 2007-04-03 21:21 user profilesend a private message to usersend email to cxp108search all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. ie only, sorry for netscape users:-)add this post to my favorite list
建议去请个假放松几天，换个心情，也许回来后你看这个项目就不那么可憎了。
要还是这样的话，恐怕没什么别的选择了...

我个人看法：
如果你一看到一个程序就心烦意乱的话，你写的代码只会让这个程序更糟！


作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:jigsaw]
ranchgirl



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给我换了个title 叫chief architect
付出的代价是对所有问题负责：负责解决方案，负责coaching, 负责所有修改的细节的正确性，负责跟进所有客户的case, 同时身体力行，负责超过一半的编码, 没有任何权力指使谁做什么---但是得对所有人的成果负责
得到的除了这个虚名，就只有5%的加薪


Suggestions for Telling your boss:

1) Chief Architect needs to have the 权力指使谁做什么, otherwise you are NOT 对所有人的成果负责. At least, you need have a small team(1-2) under your control.

2) If number of 客户 increased, you should have the right to hire more people to work for you to keep your workload reasonable and sustainable.

3) The above two need to be in writing!!!

4) At least, 10-15% (negotiable) 的加薪, otherwise, job is NOT accepted!!!!

Thanks!

ranchgirl edited on 2007-04-03 22:06


作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:jigsaw]
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If they can assign this job to you, that means you have enough weight to negotiate, you might be able to even threaten them by saying quitting , but be careful, you need to be 100% sure, and also you need to have a plan B.

ranchgirl edited on 2007-04-03 22:12


作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:gaoxt1983]
wes109

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gaoxt1983 wrote:
恩，我们换个话题吧，大家吃了吗？对了，javaeye周六有个聚会，你们谁想去？我想去，可是害怕，都是大人物啊，怕懂得太少被BS……


不需要妄自菲薄，有句话要盛名之下，其实难副。。。


作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:jigsaw]
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幸福，这辈子不用找工作了


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哈哈,这样也行,只能干活不能享受
某业务对我说:像你们这样,只有工作没有生活.....

ft


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有一个办法，要求加工资，不然就走喽。。LZ这么强的人物那里都找的到好工作的拉。

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike. Then I realized that The Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked him to forgive me.
作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:jigsaw]
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有些事，不仅仅是钱的问题。。。


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jigsaw

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经讨论 ６月份升一级job grade 并随之加薪

想通了 大不了从此就不把工作当乐趣 其它方面的乐趣还多得很呢

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Yeah!

推荐 PS3 ....


作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:jigsaw]
jigsaw

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ps2还没玩腻味呢

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只有NDSL的飘过……


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Wii最好，哈，当下Wii的托


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CoolCool Wii顶!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111


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Wii有啥好的？


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Wii不用买液精电视……


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原来玩Wii还可以锻炼身体！

关注中。。。


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工作就是工作，没办法
用增加的工资，找点新乐子
还有，既然是chief architect ，应该给你手下配几个人阿

Surround yourself with people who are open to change

作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:littledeer1974]
wes109

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littledeer1974 wrote:
工作就是工作，没办法
用增加的工资，找点新乐子
还有，既然是chief architect ，应该给你手下配几个人阿


嗯，脏活累活往下方
你主抓思想教育工作

哈哈


作者 Re:完了 被丢到垃圾项目了 [Re:wes109]
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wes109 wrote:
嗯，脏活累活往下方
你主抓思想教育工作

哈哈

对呀
这叫管理
哈哈Smile

Surround yourself with people who are open to change


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