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作者 终于想通,为什么那些框架们让人觉得,好像在兜着圈了解决问题了
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于 2003-12-26 15:21 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. 
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ConfusedCry

不是想法不好,是没有好的可视化开发界面,所有文件都要手工写

如果拖拖拽拽就可以 自动生成 struts或 Hibernate config 文件

我觉得他们才能真正 提高开发效率

要知道数据库设计中那些关系和约束都可以自动生成的 Hibernate 还要自己写。。。明显是摩登原始人。。。Broken heart...


akane edited on 2003-12-26 15:23

作者 Re:终于想通,为什么那些框架们让人觉得,好像在兜着圈了解决问题了 [Re:akane]
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于 2003-12-28 19:10 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. 
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越flexible的东西,managability就越麻烦


作者 Re:终于想通,为什么那些框架们让人觉得,好像在兜着圈了解决问题了 [Re:akane]
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于 2003-12-29 05:09 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. 
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yea, agreed. I am thinking about this too. If we can write some, say Swing or web, GUI interfaces, it would be much closer to the original idea of XML - XML is for machine communication, although it's human readable.


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作者 Re:终于想通,为什么那些框架们让人觉得,好像在兜着圈了解决问题了 [Re:akane]
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于 2003-12-29 08:59 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. 
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jbx本来就支持struts的可视化配置阿
难道你没有用?

hibernate倒是没有,不过他的扩展工具很多,我准备自己写一个集成到jbx中

eclipse我就不清楚有没有相关插件了,我想应该有八



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作者 Re:终于想通,为什么那些框架们让人觉得,好像在兜着圈了解决问题了 [Re:akane]
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于 2003-12-29 09:30 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. 
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Weblogic workshop 8.1中文版,这款工具支持这样的拖放.



作者 Re:终于想通,为什么那些框架们让人觉得,好像在兜着圈了解决问题了 [Re:akane]
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于 2003-12-31 10:07 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. 
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所以没有design tool的framework的易用性,都大打折扣。Smile


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作者 Re:终于想通,为什么那些框架们让人觉得,好像在兜着圈了解决问题了 [Re:akane]
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于 2004-01-03 16:21 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. 
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说句实话,拖拽出来的只能是极其简单的东西。而且效率又低。最后你自己都不知道该怎么改了


作者 Re:终于想通,为什么那些框架们让人觉得,好像在兜着圈了解决问题了 [Re:akane]
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于 2004-01-06 00:06 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. 
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我觉得这个是用户的问题,对於喜欢UNIX的人来说,习惯于用VI来搞定所有的CONFIG FILE,而对於WINDOW用户来说,喜欢好的UI来CONFIG,我用了几个STRUTS的GUI,象WSAD51和STRUTS STUDIO,所生成的东西从FORMAT来讲,不太喜欢,呵呵,习惯问题,不过,我觉得floater是应该喜欢text config file的啊,weblogic最早就是一个巨大的config做了所有的东西


作者 Re:终于想通,为什么那些框架们让人觉得,好像在兜着圈了解决问题了 [Re:akane]
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于 2004-02-09 17:49 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. 
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请问,你做过的最大的项目中有多少个jsp,多少个servlets,多少个类,多少个接口?
这些类里面有多少是通用的?有多少是抽象的?多少是继承的?多少是静态的?
你做过的项目中有多少个业务表单?有多少业务是走流程的?有多少业务表单中的控制是到字段级的?有多少权限?有多少角色?




作者 Re:终于想通,为什么那些框架们让人觉得,好像在兜着圈了解决问题了 [Re:akane]
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mefaint edited on 2004-02-10 10:29

作者 Re:终于想通,为什么那些框架们让人觉得,好像在兜着圈了解决问题了 [Re:akane]
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于 2004-02-10 15:41 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. 
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操作越是方便灵活性就越差


作者 Re:终于想通,为什么那些框架们让人觉得,好像在兜着圈了解决问题了 [Re:akane]
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于 2004-02-12 23:41 user profilesend a private message to usersearch all posts byselect and copy to clipboard. 
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workshop我试用过了,感觉不稳定,不过Java Pages Flow还是很不错得。


作者 Re:终于想通,为什么那些框架们让人觉得,好像在兜着圈了解决问题了 [Re:akane]
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